Angel wing star breaks

[starman]

how do you guys deal with Angel wing star breaks? I have drill it and pop a min bullseye in it but still dose not look like it has been done.

Crayton

[glassdoctor]

I don't know what an "Angel wing star" is. Try to describe what it looks like and I'm sure you will get a response.

In general, you need to be sure than any hole you drill or even a mini bullseye... actually intersects with the star. Sometimes, the drill misses the meat of the chip and a bullseye can actually be on a different plane, at a different depth level in the glass.

[boyd]

Read flexing the pit. That will work and then inject the resin. Sometimes on those types you can fill it up and the ends of the wings that have the white shinny ends will still shine a little when you look at it from certain angels. Use a thinnner resin also. Iuse a med and thin resin in my reprtoiree and I use a thin one for this kind.

[StarQuest]

Starman,

Are you sure what you might be describing isn't a "batwing". If the hit is offset from the void you'll have to angle your drill to open a path to the wing. Just be careful not to signature the glass

[starman]

thanks for the help I had another one today made it look alittle better but I did not like it .Still got payed dont think it will spead.Read this board eveyday U guys got it going on. thanks

[desertstars]

That "batwing" refered to sounds suspiciously like what I've always called a "half moon".

Looks like a simple and uncomplicated repair and turns out to be a pane (sic) in the buttwing (non-sic).

If that is indeed a "half-moon", forget the impact point and start a new drilling directly into the black area.

If that isn't the case, make believe you didn't read any of this.

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[gt_repair]

Desertstars
A batwing is just a straight 1/2 break that kind a looks like a bat wing. Simple
A partal Bull is half of a bullseye. Simple
We all know what a bull is. NOT the four legged one from home.

Later desertstorm.

[glassdoctor]

I think what we need is a "wsr glossary".

Maybe Delta could post picks of like 10 different types of breaks and assign them names, at least for this forum. Something to reference would make a lot of discussions easier. I don't even have names for some types of breaks... I see them and that's all that matters to me. 8)

As for the starman's question, we really can only take shots in the dark. I still don't even know what type of break it is, but I think I have a good idea now...

starman, did the mini bullseye fill ok, but not the star?

It is probably a matter of directing the drill hole properly. Sometimes the impact point is not centered over the break, so if you drill straight down, it actually "misses". Popping a bullseye can actually miss too.

I remember very well getting frustrated with a "simple" chip when I first started. I worked on it for a long time with almost no results and didn't know why it wouldn't fill. Turned out that the drill mark had just missed the sweet spot. Once that was remedied, it filled fine.

There are other possibilities if this is not the problem. Glass too cold, moisture in the break, clogged from a previous repair attempt, not blocking sunshine, etc...

[desertstars]

Nah, gt.

As much as I liked your previous post on another subject, I need to tell Edith to stifle on this one.

I still can't picture a "bat-wing" or an "angel-wing" no matter how I stretch my imagination or inject either Halloween or heaven into the equation.

Next thing I know, someone will be suggesting the best way to fix a "crazy-eight" or a "reverse-loop" or some other new designation prompted by a recent visit to Disney World's ride park or too many puffs on wacky-tabacky.

The way I look at it is if the black area doesn't extend into the impact point, I drill a new hole into the black area and ignore the original point of impact other than curing it regardless of whether it originated from heaven or hell.

I don't bother to ask the damage its opinion simply because I don't care and I care even less about political correctness.

And I don't ask my drill: "Hey, do you think I should bring you into play?.

If my approcach is called killing a bat or murdering an angel it makes no difference to me.

I saved a windshield and kicked the butt of my replacement competition in the process.

Hell, that's what really counts. Making some money in the process is sugar on the cereal.

I don't care whether the damage resembles Rubic's cube or a reasonable drawing of the profile of the Creature from the Black Lagoon.

I'm gonna fix it.

Sounds simplistic but it's always worked for me.

I wonder how many people understand the differences among the size of stars and bullseyes, the reasons why one develops rather than another or the degrees of damage and the severity of damage depending on impact, velocity, temperature both ambient and inside and angle and size of the projectile.

Or, like me, forget all of that; take a close look and then decide how to fix it.

KISS.

[glassdoctor]

Funny man funny.

Somehow I think you DO talk to your drills and chips. Quit sniffin the resin too.