Flex the pit !!

[desertstars]

OK, glassdoctor.

Gotcha.

I'll try to restrain myself. Curb my anger. Redirect my inner feelings toward Paradise. Take a deep breath. Slow down.

One.

Two.

Three.

(Where the hell was I? I lost count!)

Oh.

Ten.

What did you say? I forgot.

Oh, yeah, Weren't we discussing Janet Jackson's recent TV appearance and the relevance to where the term "boob tube" rather than "boobs (plural) tube" originated?

Or was that another forum?

I can't keep track anymore.

You have a good sense of humor glassdoctor in a simple business that too many people are turning into something complicated.

Stones are our allies and replacement people are our enemies.

[boyd]

Ok. This is my last response to this subject. A couple commments to Desertstars. I seem somehow to have offended you. Some of your comments kindof offended me too, so I guess we are even. The part where you say "go somewhere next door or across the street to look for another job ... stop worrying about advertising and sales." I don't leave unless I need to. Hardly ever more than a coule of minutes and hardly ever where I can't see my equipment.
This forum is about growing, changing and evolving. I'm not taking all of your comments to heart because if I did there would no longer be a need for the forum. If all of your post was true we would all ... do a few cycles... leave and go next door for 30 minutes come back and "wallah" it's done. Because after all ... the most difficult decision (according to your post, and some others yesterday) was to drill or not to drill.
I hope our engineers, doctors and educators don't follow the same philosophy of if it's working OK we don't need anymore innovation.

Last comment. I was taught and still do this. When you think you are finished with the repair "flex the pit" it will open the whole damaged area.
If you see black, while you are holding the flex, there is still air in the area and you are not done. I do this prior to curing the resin.
Desert, hope I didn't offend you. I, sometimes, gain confidence when I hear people say stuff I know is wrong. So, if you think I'm wrong you should feel good.
I love this forum.
BOYD

[glassdoctor]

Boyd, never mind desertstars.... his keyboard is just grumpy sometimes and goes off on a rant. It's nothing personal. I have had a lot of my comments "jumped on" by people on forums in the past. It used to bug me having to defend every comment that wasn't in line with a guy's wsr bible.

The comment about some chips only needing this flexing technique to be repaired is probably what struck a nerve. I can understand that... it sounds funny. I know what you mean... but I would always at least stick the injector on it briefly to make sure it's really done.

Good point about using the flex test to tell if the break is totally filled. I used this to help the guys I have trained to know when the repair is "done". It's like the toothpick test for my chocolate cakes. Only thing I would add to that is you have to be judicious with how much pressure to use when flexing... press too hard and even a 100% done repair will open up again. Hopefully that's common sense but you know how uncommon it is.

[Coitster]

I agree with you GlassDoctor,
Desertstars is still the same person we all know and love. Even when he goes on one of his rants. Its funny sometimes he might offend people but then most people havn't gotten to know Jim the way I have. He is always here to help people when they need it. But at least he is still the a network loving fool.
David
Coitster

[GRT]

OK people, New Term. No more surface pit or surface chip... BORING... Its now called a "DIVOT" or glass divot, which ever you preferr. I'm just trying to *** up the jargon a bit. What do ya think. 8)

[mafsu]

Just to clear up, I don't think desertstars understood the earlier posts. I always (and from what I read so does Boyd) use my bridge and injector when repairing a damaged windshield. I also must agree with Boyd your injector is not the do all end all of a windshield repair. If this was so any moron could buy one of the computerized repair systems and automatically be a master at this.

[vidales2]

Boyd,

If this method works so great, I am sure that you have taken some before and after pictures of the chips that you have repaired. Would you be so kind as to share some of the before and after's of these repairs.

Shawn Hill
Vidales Windshield Repair & Replacement

[glassdoctor]

Look, no one said it makes a repair look better than another method. It's just about a different way to get the same results. I will say that one benefit is that it can reduce the odds of getting a daisy effect because it can reduce the time spend under pressure. But I'm not going to argue about it. Give us a break.

punny huh?

[mafsu]

Glassdoctor is right. I'm not saying this will make your repairs look better. I will put some before and after pics on my website in the next week or so if you want to see them. I have been meaning to do this for a while anyway, just haven't gotten around to it.

[colodog]

Thanks Boyd for the repair tip. I was trained to drill into each leg of a star break. I was trained and certified through a competitor of Delta Kits. All of our practice was done at room temperature with the windshields placed in racks. The racks looked like an upside down T. This takes the pressure off of the front laminate allowing the resin to flow freely. I was taught to heat on both the vaccum and pressure cycles. The tools really performed well under these circumstances. The training environment was fun and Delta's competitors were friendly and treated me well. The competitor has a repair help line that I have not used often.

Of course, this training was benificial. However, there was a lot left to be desired from the training. I have actually learned more from reading these posts when it comes to repairing than I did from my certification. In fact, the only repair that I have had grow came right after my certification because I was to overconfident and not alert enough. It was on my son's Ford Bronco. I stopped the growth right away. Popping a bullseye in the impact point of a star helped me out a lot. I look forward to trying your popping technique. The discussion following your post is also very beneficial to me too because it helps me to understand how that resin flows into that break. Thank you everyone.

I started repairing last May and my skills have improved alot. Thanks to this forum and the Blind Squirrel I am not wasting a bunch of time waiting for that windshield to cool down in between cycles. As long as I live I can always learn something new.

Robert