Newbie intro / Air Bubble and Flowering issues
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Re: Newbie intro / Air Bubble and Flowering issues
Just a thought on this again this morning, I use a magnifying glass I could certainly not see the very small air bubbles without it that need hooking out, prior to curing.
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Re: Newbie intro / Air Bubble and Flowering issues
I might do that. Maybe even 4 with tab, 4 no tab, and 4 curing tape. I did 5 repairs yesterday successfully with no air in the pit by using curing tape. The "flowering" has subsided probably 50% by using little to no thump pressure on the injector during the pressure cycle BUT my time per repair has increased 100%. It seems that the air in these bullseye's I'm making just doesn't want to come out with anything less than 45 min worth of work...glassdoctor wrote: Try this and get back to me.... drill a dozen holes of any shape and size and fill them with resin, making sure none have any bubbles prior to curing of course, and cure 6 with a tab and 6 with no tab and see what you get.
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Re: Newbie intro / Air Bubble and Flowering issues
If you make the holes a little bigger and deeper, I think you will have more success in your bubble making. 

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Re: Newbie intro / Air Bubble and Flowering issues
Here's an example that I did today using NO thumb pressure. It was a small halfmoon with a short crack running out either side. Procedure went like this:
Practice glass: PGW Solarshield
Made the break
Added water
Wiped off excess
Moisture evaporator for 15-20 sec <-- I let this thing heat up before I put it on the glass thus getting 15-20 seconds of full heat. Is that correct?
Heat exchanger ~30 sec.
Measure temp of break - 85F
Surrounding glass 83F
Apply bridge assembly and put into pressure cycle.
The break starts filling nicely and I don't use any added pressure.
Go thru 3 press/vac cycles, pull the assembly and cure.
This is what I ended up with:


Practice glass: PGW Solarshield
Made the break
Added water
Wiped off excess
Moisture evaporator for 15-20 sec <-- I let this thing heat up before I put it on the glass thus getting 15-20 seconds of full heat. Is that correct?
Heat exchanger ~30 sec.
Measure temp of break - 85F
Surrounding glass 83F
Apply bridge assembly and put into pressure cycle.
The break starts filling nicely and I don't use any added pressure.
Go thru 3 press/vac cycles, pull the assembly and cure.
This is what I ended up with:


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Re: Newbie intro / Air Bubble and Flowering issues
I think you need to give it more tome to cool. The internal glass/pvb layer could still be warm enough to cause issues even though the surface temp was down to 85.
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Re: Newbie intro / Air Bubble and Flowering issues
That could be it. About how long should it take for it to cool to a working temp? I mean, if you use the moisture evaporator and then the heat exchanger -that whole process only takes 2 min and brings the glass from 85f to as high as 200f and then back down to 85-87f. So give it another 5 min after that?glassdoctor wrote:I think you need to give it more tome to cool. The internal glass/pvb layer could still be warm enough to cause issues even though the surface temp was down to 85.
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Re: Newbie intro / Air Bubble and Flowering issues
Since this seems to be happening consistently on this glass, it might be a construction defect. Try doing a few repairs on a different piece of glass and monitor your results.
Cheers;
Puka Pau
Cheers;
Puka Pau
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Re: Newbie intro / Air Bubble and Flowering issues
I'll give that a go. I'm in the market for a small piece of glass to take around with me to use as a display anyways.puka pau wrote:Since this seems to be happening consistently on this glass, it might be a construction defect. Try doing a few repairs on a different piece of glass and monitor your results.
Cheers;
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Re: Newbie intro / Air Bubble and Flowering issues
Fix the chips on the windshields of your friends and family for free.
I think that is better practice.
Way more varied.
I think that is better practice.
Way more varied.
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Re: Newbie intro / Air Bubble and Flowering issues
Mr Bill I think before going live it is wise to perfect on a practise glass.
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