Windshield Repair Forum

Glasseye,
I am confused about the ability of the Glass Medic system to dry out. Nowhere on their site does it mention it dries out moisture, how does it do this. I know it starts with an initial vacuum but this will only remove very slight moisture, as I stated in an earlier post. Please enlighten me as I try and learn as much as possible about our trade and the tools in it.

Many thanks.

On the dry out question, you would be better directing that question to Glass medic themselves. As to the times quoted, these are minimum times, that can be extended at each stage according to the technicians decision on each repair. On the question of long cracks Autoglass guidelines in the UK do not recommend repairing damage greater than 40mm.. The challenge given to Glass medic by Belron was to produce a repair system that was easy to use and reduced the risk of surface contamination from repair resin.

I trained on the Glass Medic system and have used it for the past 15 years now.
The Glass medic kit does NOT dry out chips. Cannot do long cracks, and cannot do chips within 2.5 inches of the edge of the glass due to the large cup that the injector sets in.

The Glass Medic is a hard tool to get used too, You cannot adjust the amount of pressure the injector is putting on the glass like other systems. And therefor some star chips are hard to fill because of the over pressure. and some star chips will just run out.

I must admit, the system looks good to the client! 4 inch head coiled air hoses and the vac pump running. When I first tried another repair system at a fleet account we presently service, the client thought we were cheating them with the delta unit. no power, no hoses, no noise? we just wern't earning our money. LOL

AGSS,

Thanks very much for your reply. It just confirmed what I already thought.

I'm going to play around with the probe on resin this week to see if I can learn the difference between it and glass.

Thanks guys

If its a crap repair, you'll notice spots of air (black spots) in the repair. Have come across many. I normally use the scribe to open the original impact point. If its been reparied you'll notice straight away that the noise and the feel is completely different.

Was called for a repair on a Merc Sprinter the other day, while I was doing the repair I noticed there was a nother bullseye chip towards the centre of the screen, I told the customer I'll do it while I'm here, he said 'Well! Thats already been repaired 2 months ago by (A******s), I've still got a picture of that, when I get round to it I'll post it on the forum.

I don't know how they get away with it?

AGSS
Judging by your comments, you are describing the earlier type GM repair system, not the RAS head system, are there any repairers on this forum who use the RAS system?

I had a guy working for me last year, He came to me because he had "experience" in repairing windscreens and replacing them, so I thought great, I will interview him and it would save me going through the process of sending him for training, maybe I will even learn from him. He worked for Auto Glass but was unhappy with the salary.

I asked him to show me how he does his repairs.

mmmm, :eusa_snoo No drilling, ok, no pit fill and UV light, whats that?
He had no idea. This is how he was trained in his 30 minutes of repair training.
The more concerning thing was that he had been working for them doing this for 3 years:eusa_thin

I showed him the way I do it and he was doing much better repairs. The storys he told me was disturbing. The UK insuarance companys are being ripped off big time, and why? Because the company that get almost all the insurance work are replacing screens that can easily be repaired.

I must admit that drying out the screens was not something I was ever shown in the UK by 2 companys that I "trained" with. Its only in the last 18 months I have been drying before each repair and my repairs have improved ever since! I have now done my 3rd training but this time I trained with Delta Kits and it has given me more confidence as they covered so much more that I ever thought.:biggrin:

Wo,wo,wo.
This has turned into an Autoglass/Belron kicking session. I can't comment about individual fitters and I am not here to defend them, except to say that
Fix a chip is right, they do do a lot of insurance work and have maintained & grown this since 1983 ( 24 years). You don't keep that kind of business without doing most things right.

My business partner in my other business is ex Autoglass our subcontract fitter is ex Autoglass. We know a little about how they work. I would imagine they maintaned the level they are at more by replacement than quality of repair. As I stated in an earlier post I admire them for what they have achieved. Not the quality of their work.

Please remind us of how they dry out a chip because nobody at Autoglass can tell me. I hate bad windscreen repairs carried out by anyone, it creates a bad image of what is possible.