New I-100

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Re: New I-100

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Bruno wrote:Jeff

Are you on vacation, usualy your answers are faster?
Vacation???

Had to look that up in good ole Websters, so I see what you mean now. It shows hours on my check of "vacation," but Brent just says that's for looks and i'm not allowed to look at that anymore. Looks like I won't be getting any of those for a while. ;)

Sorry it took so long to respond, I thought I had already.

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Re: New I-100

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Bruno wrote:But seriously Jeff, in the picks I see no seals, so how do you create a vacumm in a non sealed enviroment? I have your injectors(old ones), and have yet too see any vac. Some explinations would greatly help us to understand the theory behind the injector.
Okay, so this has been gone over in threads before, and I don't like to do it because it sounds like a sales pitch against other companies. Since i'm asked again though, here goes:

Two types of pressure/vacuum. Air pressure, and hydraulic pressure. Hydraulic pressure simply means no air in this case.

First, our end seals are not o-rings, and only show a small fraction of the seal from the end, the rest is inside the injector. This system creates all the vacuum needed to perform an excellent repair. That's the ultimate goal here isn't it? Windshield repair is about removing all air, refilling with optically matched resin, curing it flush, and having it hold. No one sane would disagree with that.

There are two schools of thought. One that is propagandized.err...promoted by unnamed competitors says that the more vacuum you pull, the better the repair. Makes sense right? They even now at trade shows have this catchy little demo where they hold the injector upside down on their finger with the vacuum, and tell potential customers to have us try that. Well that's just Neat-O. In their manual, I don't see that as the preferred method for doing what the injector is designed for, which is doing an excellent windshield repair.

They've stopped doing repairs at trade shows, instead just choosing to do their circus act. When they send potential customers to us and ask us to do it, we simply demonstrate (or let them try) a repair, which turns out beautifully. If theirs works as well, why have they now stopped doing repairs at every trade show we're at?

The problem is, any time you're using internal o-rings or seals, you are creating a closed, air pressure system. This means you pull this 5,000 pounds of vacuum (or whatever their marketing campaigns are up to nowadays), but where does the air go? Stays right at the top, because the internal o-ring won't allow it to escape. Then, you have to put it in the pressure cycle, which means the piston pushes on this air pocket, and the air is what you're trying to force resin into the break with. Ever wonder why if their vacuum is so great, why you have to do 2, 3, or 4 cycles, just like ours. Seems to me if vacuum was magic, you wouldn't need to keep vacuuming after you've already pressured.

With a hydraulic system like ours, we have no internal o-rings. You pressure the resin in, pull a quick vacuum (30 seconds), and our system allows the air to completely evacuate from the system. On the next pressure cycle, the piston is once again directly on resin, pushing resin directly into the break.

Okay, so that's the difference.

I am certainly not saying that repairs can't be done with an air pressure system. I am simply saying our method is easier and quicker (quicker according to the manual of a specific air pressure company that says stars take 45 minutes, when ours takes 15).

The other difference, is you will see companies out there that say it is simply impossible for our system to work, and we're "lying." Well, we've been in business since 1984, have satisfied customers all over the world that would be slightly confused if they were told our system can't possibly work because it doesn't pull enough vacuum.

So, our company says air pressure systems can work, just not as efficiently as our hydraulic method. Those companies say that ours can't work at all, and we've been lying for 22 years. You be the judge.

One last thing, if anyone is still reading this far. Bruno, if you're having problems with our bridge "not pulling enough vacuum," you've got a different issue. It's simply not a vacuum problem. Give us a call and we would be more than happy to provide unlimited technical support.
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Re: New I-100

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pbaker wrote:So if I were to order two of these tomorrow or the next day, what are the biggest differences that I would notice vs. your last model which I am very impressed with?
Depends on you I suppose. We have all the upgrades listed on the site, but i'll hit a couple highlights.

Our injector is now Nickel coated Stainless Steel. Woohoo, shiny. That's not the reason we did it. Nickel is much harder, smoother, and will stay working much smoother after cleaning than Stainless. Plus it looks better. :)

We have less internal threads in the injector body. This means if you use plastic bottles, less waste in threads, saves you money. If you use the eye droppers, the eye dropper will now fit all the way down to the seal, again, not getting resin in the threads, so you can use less resin.

The "ears" of the injector have been replaced with a solid internal piston piece. This means it's more durable and smoother to operate.

Also, when putting in the vacuum notches, the notches are rounded a bit, plus the solid piece, means much less effort to pull out of vacuum to put into pressure. You simply roll it over to pressure.

The knurling is now much more comfortable, and also the head of the injector is much easier to grab and turn with gloves than the previous model.

All of this for only a $50 upgrade! :) There's the salesman part for ya!

I'm tired of typing now. :( Any more questions though, shoot them over. I'm still trying to figure out why I get all these "vacation" hours that no one lets me use! :)
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Jeff.

I have been giving that "vacation time" some thought....Could it be that it is a part of a "severance" package?
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Re: New I-100

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Layne wrote:Jeff.

I have been giving that "vacation time" some thought....Could it be that it is a part of a "severance" package?


That's why I haven't pushed the issue...:)
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Re: New I-100

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All this vaccum,pressure,air,hydraulic stuff. To technical for me, I will stick to fixing jets!

I have enjoyed my DK tooling for years, doesnt mean that other tooling doesnt do great repairs though via different technology. Yeah maybe I wish sometimes I had better vaccum on the larger hits but a little patience and and extra cycle or two and you have a great repair. IMHO this tooling is more maitenance friendly and probably the easiest to use from setup to break down. To each there own. Choices are a beautful thing.

I would like to see an honest independant head to head trial though. Good luck there unless one of us independants take the time and money to have it done. For myself it is not worth it. Even if more vaccum provided a faster repair, what are we talking about a few minutes. For me my real job is fast enough, when I do WSR I love the fact that it is stress FREE so a couple of extra minutes here or there is okay by me and I still do first rate repairs. I do realize time is money though so I can appreciate sombody elses need for speed.

Hey Jeff... back to my question that started this whole thread off that still has not been answered. What about the next generation of tooling that you are working on. OUT WITH SOME INFO ALREADY!!!!!
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Re: New I-100

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SGT wrote:Hey Jeff... back to my question that started this whole thread off that still has not been answered. What about the next generation of tooling that you are working on. OUT WITH SOME INFO ALREADY!!!!!
We just introduced this one 5 days ago...! We're always working on new stuff, but hold your horses.

Checking records, I don't show that you've upgraded yet Brian...Hmmm, that's gotta be a misprint. It's only $50, pony up Jet Man! :)

Seriously though, upgrades to this one are only in beginning stages, so I wouldn't expect it for quite a while.
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Re: New I-100

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No problem Jeff, I figured on an answer like that. Really the only one you can give in this setting. I will see you on the 18th with my father for a more in depth off the record of course answer!!!

You are right, I have not bumped up to the shinny one. You guys made your old tooling so well, and I have become so proficent with it and I have become so attatched to it I might go through separation anxiety if I trade up. I know you guys are soft sellers so lets see if you can twist my arm!!
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Re: New I-100

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I decided to jump on the bandwagon with the new injector. I've never had an issue with the current design, as it's similar to what I learned to use a few years ago, but something new can't hurt, right?
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Re: New I-100

Post by Bruno »

I too will order the new injector, but I have an additional question, if the air can escape, how is it that the resin doesn't? also if you are designin another product, I would look into a system that does create a stronger vac, as it considerably speeds up the repair process, just a sugestion.
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